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Post by goofy62 on Aug 7, 2022 23:28:09 GMT -5
In the shop working on the '64 Bonneville again today. Today I started adding some inner fender lip detail, along with mounting areas for the removable hinges. This adds some more visual appeal, as well as giving the hinges a perceived attachment point so that they don't appear to be floating in space.
Steve
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Post by Dave from Pleasanton on Aug 9, 2022 14:26:53 GMT -5
Awesome work Steve. Couple of questions. Where did you get the hinges? Are they going to be removable or is the hood going to be fixed in the up position?
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Post by goofy62 on Aug 10, 2022 11:33:07 GMT -5
Awesome work Steve. Couple of questions. Where did you get the hinges? Are they going to be removable or is the hood going to be fixed in the up position?
The hinges are modified pieces from the Moebius 1961 Ventura kit.
They are removable, so that the model will be able to be displayed with the hood in the opened or closed position.
Miniature magnets have been embedded into the firewall, and installed on the back of the hinge, as well as the upper portion of the hinge to hood bracket. and thin strips of metal were added to the underside of the hood.
This allows the option of display with the hood closed, or by quickly snapping the hinges into place and dropping on the hood, displaying with the hood open.
This eliminates the use of a hood prop, as well as the usual unrealistic hinge slots in the firewall or inner fender wells.
My last couple of projects used roughly the same technique.
Steve
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Post by Dave from Pleasanton on Aug 10, 2022 13:25:01 GMT -5
Thanks Steve. I have that Moebius kit so I guess I have a start. Did you make a resin copy of the hinge? Where do you get the magnets?
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Post by goofy62 on Aug 10, 2022 15:34:45 GMT -5
Thanks Steve. I have that Moebius kit so I guess I have a start. Did you make a resin copy of the hinge? Where do you get the magnets?
I used the Moebius hinge because it, and the hinges from the AMT '62 Catalina kit, are the closest that I had to '64 Pontiac hinges, but you can use virtually any kit supplied hinge that is applicable for the kit you are building.
The hinge used in my '64 Grand Prix came from the AMT Catalina, and the ones in my '68 Coronet came from the Revell '68 Charger.
In both of those circumstances, the only modifications carried out was the addition of the magnets, and the replacement of the plastic spring with one made from wire.
The only reason that I changed the upper portion of these springs in this instance is because the position of the spring needed to be raised and moved forward slightly for the hood to appear to be in the correct position when open.
Therefore, I did not make any resin copies, mostly because every build requires it's own unique engineering for the hinges to be positioned and shaped as they need to be.
The magnets themselves are available in various places, but these were purchased on eBay.
They come in numerous shapes and sizes, but these are one of the smallest versions.
If you are attempting to find them on eBay, simply type "1/8 x 1/32 Neodymium Rare Earth Disc Magnets" into the search bar, and you will find numerous options. but this is the size that I've used.
They are relatively inexpensive and can be used for all sorts of modeling applications.
I know that some builders use them frequently on opening doors to hold the doors securely closed.
Steve
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Post by mack2856 on Aug 12, 2022 16:56:37 GMT -5
That mock-up looks sweet.
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Post by Dave from Pleasanton on Aug 24, 2022 20:20:26 GMT -5
Thanks Steve. I have that Moebius kit so I guess I have a start. Did you make a resin copy of the hinge? Where do you get the magnets?
I used the Moebius hinge because it, and the hinges from the AMT '62 Catalina kit, are the closest that I had to '64 Pontiac hinges, but you can use virtually any kit supplied hinge that is applicable for the kit you are building.
The hinge used in my '64 Grand Prix came from the AMT Catalina, and the ones in my '68 Coronet came from the Revell '68 Charger.
In both of those circumstances, the only modifications carried out was the addition of the magnets, and the replacement of the plastic spring with one made from wire.
The only reason that I changed the upper portion of these springs in this instance is because the position of the spring needed to be raised and moved forward slightly for the hood to appear to be in the correct position when open.
Therefore, I did not make any resin copies, mostly because every build requires it's own unique engineering for the hinges to be positioned and shaped as they need to be.
The magnets themselves are available in various places, but these were purchased on eBay.
They come in numerous shapes and sizes, but these are one of the smallest versions.
If you are attempting to find them on eBay, simply type "1/8 x 1/32 Neodymium Rare Earth Disc Magnets" into the search bar, and you will find numerous options. but this is the size that I've used.
They are relatively inexpensive and can be used for all sorts of modeling applications.
I know that some builders use them frequently on opening doors to hold the doors securely closed.
Steve
Thanks for the info Steve. Much appreciate.
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Post by coyotecrunch on Sept 15, 2022 14:56:47 GMT -5
Wow, reading over this for the hinges, and I am blown away by this technique. I will definitely incorporate this in some upcoming builds, thank you for showing and explaining all this!
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Post by mack2856 on Sept 16, 2022 22:25:55 GMT -5
Brilliant, everything you do surprises me.
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Post by deuce on Dec 31, 2022 10:32:24 GMT -5
I guess I saw more pictures on a Facebook post. There's a picture of the dash you did for the car, so I sent the picture to my brother to show him the exquisite detail your putting into the car, even mentioning the cigar in the ashtray, lol.
Since he has a 64 Bonneville convertible, he pointed out the ashtray would be for the bench seat model, that the ashtray on the convertible is different. I had to laugh at that. Maybe that's just how the kit was tooled. I can't verify as his console is out of his car right now.
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Post by HotRodTom on Jan 3, 2023 19:43:18 GMT -5
I think you had better change you name from goofy62 to Doctor Detail. Awesome work... Got my vote, "Doc"!
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Post by goofy62 on May 28, 2023 14:37:08 GMT -5
Hello again fellas!
Lord, it's been a long time since I visited the board!!
But, I just wanted to let you all know, that I am alive and well, and still plugging away on this more than a year long project.
As should be the case, since I haven't posted an update since last August, I have made a considerable amount of progress on this build since then.
I'll post what I've been laboring over in several posts to illustrate at least the results of that labor.
I feel bad that I haven't visited in so long, but I will try to make an attempt to log on a little more regularly in the future.
First, a few shots of the paint, foil, and interior detailing progress.
Steve
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Post by goofy62 on May 28, 2023 14:50:38 GMT -5
Next it was on to the engine.
I decided that I wanted to build this model to depict a well maintained, but well driven vehicle.
You know, like any proud 1964 Bonneville convertible owner would have had in his garage around 1966 or '67.
But, this owner didn't have a lot of extra cash, so I also wanted the model to depict a pretty standard Bonneville, minus a lot of the bells and whistles available in the Bonneville at the time.
No, tri-power motor, just a standard 389 4 barrel, but with a 4-speed transmission.
A console delete vehicle, but still with the bucket seats, and no power windows.
A basic Bonneville with few options except power steering and brakes.
Not even the usual 8-lug wheels that you see on a great number of Pontiac models of this era, but just the standard full wheel covers.
The air cleaner assembly and element are removable for display options.
Steve
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Post by goofy62 on May 28, 2023 14:56:42 GMT -5
Finally, this is where I am at the moment.
Working on the final chassis touches and getting ready for what I hope will be quickly upcoming final assembly stages.
Steve
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Post by goofy62 on May 28, 2023 15:18:58 GMT -5
I guess I saw more pictures on a Facebook post. There's a picture of the dash you did for the car, so I sent the picture to my brother to show him the exquisite detail your putting into the car, even mentioning the cigar in the ashtray, lol. Since he has a 64 Bonneville convertible, he pointed out the ashtray would be for the bench seat model, that the ashtray on the convertible is different. I had to laugh at that. Maybe that's just how the kit was tooled. I can't verify as his console is out of his car right now.
I understand the confusion that your brother might have, and yes, the ash tray in the center of the dash would have been normally for a bench seat car, but back in these days, there were a lot of individual options available to the buyer.
In this instance, the car is depicting a basically standard interior, with the bench seat dash due to a console delete configuration, with a 4-speed transmission and the optional bucket seats.
Granted, an unusual package, but not unheard of.
With the console out of the picture, as far as I know, whether a convertible, or a sedan, there was only one option for the placement of the ash tray, and that would have been in the lower, center dash board, where the console trim would have resided had the car been equipped with a console.
This photo will illustrate that these options were available.
The photo depicts a 1964 Bonneville convertible, with a 4-speed, console delete, bucket seat interior.
I'm not an expert, but I'm guessing that the panel in the dash center above the transmission tunnel is likely the ash tray.
Steve
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